Tuesday, June 24, 2014

Looking at Other Blogs (Cited Plagiarism Flashback)

While looking around for some old posts to link here, I came across a few old blog posts from other people and they're a little interesting, so why not take a look.

First, here's a response/joke blog from what appears to be a wally cultist, if not wally himself (I can dream...)
Nah I kid, not enough obscenities and suggestions that I kill myself to be wally.

http://progamefaqscensorship.blogspot.com/2014_06_01_archive.html

I'd like to thank wally for all his hard work and dedication in his dealings with the false shepard...Tails82. This unholy blasphemer, this maniacal monster that spreads lies and deceit and corruption everywhere it goes. This vile hellspawn created from the darkest pits of hell. Yes this wretched abomination saint wally deals with on a daily basis for free for our security.     
He keeps us safe from this demonic creature and its heathenous anti censorship ideals. It is only when we accept censorship and fair moderation that we cast out this baron of darkness.

Unfortunately, your wally with his little w cannot do anything against the conservatroll tide. Even though he's a mod he doesn't touch the politics board, so we can take his word over reality.

It turns out someone has actually tried harder than me - to support mods. No I'm not talking about that guy up there. I'm looking at this:

http://thatrandomuser.wordpress.com/

Dude be pissed that people spend so much of their precious time complaining about moderations, so he's spent his precious time with walls of text getting upset over how those other people should not be upset. Though he appears to have been inactive for many a moon now. Dude does not know what paragraph breaks are. It's going to take some time to look at this thing and have some fun with it, not for the guy's opinion but for the stuff he's quoted from. Latest post featuring tmk, where Error is called a troll AND troll apologist (poor guy, and he doesn't even get paid for it):

There are two reasons GameFAQs would even have mods. The first reason would be to keep the site out of any serious trouble, so like, deleting things that would upset companies, or authorities for example. Threats and harassingly revealing personal information, child porn being removed of course, stuff like that. If that’s why the mods are here, then the rules are currently EXTREMELY over-bloated and rather nonsensical to the point of the site’s rules.
Alternative reason is, the above, plus also to try and maintain some degree of order on the boards, to try and prevent things from being overly disrupted and such by troublemakers, to reign in troublemakers. When a mod acts trollish, that is directly counter to this second reason, and tends to be rather disruptive because of this wacky idea of thinking mods should probably be held to a bit higher standards than a 3 week old account.
Trolling also comes across way, way worse when it’s coming from someone with some degree of authority over the site and you, especially on a site where trolling is supposed to be something you can be modded for. Some of the most disruptive dickery I’ve seen on the site came from moderators, in fact.

It doesn’t engender a lot of respect or cooperation between the userbase and the authority on GameFAQs when the mods come across as dismissive and trollish and above all else, hypocrites.

the moonlight knight could not be reached for comment. And that's a shame too, because I'd give him more fair treatment than this guy did.

Here's an entry that's a bit old and known around town, but may be worth a read. The secretive environment of mod decisions is arguably still a problem today, with that whole unannounced flip-flop on cited plagiarism.

http://poker-over-killing.blogspot.com/2007/09/i-was-gamefaqs-moderator-for-5-yrs.html

The level of consistency was ridiculous. I remember making topics on the mod boards that some of us worked on to try and get an idea on where people's heads were and it was amazing to see the complete mess it was. Some people would NKL one thing while some would warn for the same thing, a couple would suspend, and a couple would notify, and then about 50 mods would never even bother to read or participate on the mod boards. It was a mess.

the basic theme is that they think all their users are a bunch of retarded monkey children who will do anything they can to break a rule so may as well live in the old ages of internet forums...The reason people get mad and frustrated is that keeping such ridiculous secrets does make it look as if the mods are vastly superior to the regs. Like the regs are too stupid to handle it.

Speaking of secrecy, images of Willy Wonka popped in my head there for a minute there. "Nobody ever goes in, nobody ever comes out." Starring the Oompa Loompas as retarded monkey children. I'd pay for a seat in that theater.

Where it really gets interesting though, is this comment. Tell me if it sounds familiar.

Things like the issue of "consistency" combined with the secrecy are what bugs the shit out of most users, especially the vets like me who are going on almost eight years of posting. A few years back there was a flareup on the main board I visit (WOT) about large copy-pasted posts of news articles being deleted as "illegal activities". Yet that was tolerated and indeed part of the normal function of the mostly politically-oriented board for years.

Fine, okay, suddenly we respect copyrights down to the letter, right? The problem is, there was no clear idea of what "fair use" length was being considered, whether you could fill one post, half a post, one eighth of the article, etc., etc. and any attempt to question the local mod staff only received bullshit responses about how they couldn't say things that would actually inform us as to how to NOT BREAK THE FUCKING RULES.


So what happened? When the controversy died down, so too did the moderations, and nowadays it is again normal for a full post of text from a linked article to be posted and not moderated. At the same time, post public domain text from something like Wikisource going across a few posts and you get told how it is "illegal". Yes, comrade, it has always been a violation, it is only now that mod consciousness has fully awakened to it.

Think they have a book lying around of ways to screw with users, and every once in a while they dust it off to briefly retry some silly rule? The way things happen behind closed doors, could be, we'd never know. Maybe the rules go in and out of fashion like hairstyles. Thus, I called it a fad. I guess they've never really figured it out because they're still going at it. How strange to punish users because mods are indecisive and can't agree on what the rules are.

So it turns out in this big sea known as the wide wild web, I'm not quite alone. Who knows what lurks around the bend or the next google search? One thing's for sure, there's bound to be more adventure out there, more things to find. We'll keep you up to date as we go along.

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